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Link back to the main Dresden Files WoJ compilation<\/a><\/p>\n

I try to keep\u00a0my Mirror Mirror goodreads.com review<\/a>\u00a0up to date with everything Jim has said about upcoming Dresden Files releases.\u00a0 A lot of the below is hypothetical things he has ideas for, whereas the review has the things he has already written or already promised someone he will write for their anthology\/comic book whatever.<\/em>\u00a0 \u00a0Also, I notice that some of this stuff is outdated but it’ll take me some time to update it\u00a0<\/em>-Serack<\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n

On Future Short Stories<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

2009 Lexington signing<\/a>
\nWill we get any more stories from other points of view?<\/strong>
\nThere will be one from Marcone (in Dark and Stormy Night) and one from Murphy (entitled Hawaii).
\n2010 Huston signing<\/a>
\nAre we gonna get a short story from Mouse\u2019s POV?<\/strong>
\nNo, \u2018cause then you would know too much.
\n2011 Marscon<\/a>
\nAny\u2026give us any teasers on the upcoming shorts?<\/strong>
\nOn the upcoming short stories?\u00a0 Huh. Man, I might have to do a Mister and Mouse one although it might really wind up being more Mister, Mouse and Bob, because that would be really cool.\u00a0 I was thinking I\u2019ll probably do another Murphy one at some point, because it was so hard to do, the first one, it was like, okay, I did a lot of work on that I need to get some more mileage out of that one.\u00a0 And then, I will probably actually do one from the point of view of the private eye\u2026
\nVince?<\/strong>
\nYeah, Vince.\u00a0 Just because he is so much my tribute to the late Robert Parker character.\u00a0 It was my intention to write somebody who\u2019s totally in that Spencer vein. And Vince is good for that.\u00a0 He\u2019d be hilarious as a point of view character, but\u2026.
\n2011 NYC Signing Q&A<\/a>
\nWill we see Ivy and Kincaid again soon?<\/strong>
\nProbably not. I need to write the short story of Kincaid coming home after that job
\nKansas City release party Q&A<\/a>
\nAre there more short stories coming?<\/strong>
\nYes, there are. Right now, I\u2019m about two-thirds of the way done with the second of the Bigfoot trilogy of stories, which I\u2019m having fun writing.\u00a0 Bigfoot\u2019s the client. He comes to Harry, he\u2019s got some problems with his kid, he can\u2019t exactly walk into town and help, so Dresden gets hired and is on the job.\u00a0 The first one\u2019s called B is for Bigfoot, and the kid\u2019s in grade school. The next one is I Was a Teenage Bigfoot, and the kid\u2019s in high school, and then Bigfoot On Campus, when he\u2019s in college, so the three of those, and several of the short stories, and the one that didn\u2019t make it into the anthology, Curses, will be in there, and any others that I write, because I still owe some short stories. I\u2019ve got to start writing these things, man, they\u2019re so hard. Writing a short story, you have to do everything in the short story that you\u2019d do in a novel, except you have to do it in this much space.\u00a0 It\u2019s like trying to have a knife fight in a phone booth.
\n2011 Atlanta Signing<\/a>
\nWill there ever be a story about Kincaid and Murphy in Hawaii?<\/strong>
\nYes. It\u2019s gonna have to wait until I do a little research on Hawaiian gods.\u00a0 There\u2019s going to be issues with volcanoes and so\u2026
\n2016 DF Reddit podcast Q&A<\/a>
\nI’m doing a Wild Wild West short story set in Dodge City in 1883 staring Luccio.<\/p>\n

I’ve also thought about going back and writing the French and Indian war in the Dresdenverse which would be really interesting because that’s back when Ebenezar was a young hothead and most of the Senior Council guys were running around causing trouble, dumb enough to get into the kind of things Dresden does every book. We’d have sasquatches and the French and everything, it’d be a lot of fun.
\nEditor’s note:\u00a0 There’s a\u00a02011 WoJ<\/a>\u00a0that obliquely implies Kincaid is also a character in the French and Indian War story<\/span><\/p>\n

The BAT (Big Apocalyptic Trilogy)<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

2009 Lexington signing<\/a>
\nClarification on what\u2019s behind the titles for the final trilogy.\u00a0<\/strong>
\nHell\u2019s Bells and Stars & Stones are Harry and Eb terms; Empty Night is used by Thomas.\u00a0 They are curses for a reason.
\n2011 KC signing<\/a>
\nGreat, powerful wizards are staple, but generally speaking by the time that these big, powerful wizards get to the end, in terms of the big finale of the series, what they actually accomplish is fairly small. Are you planning something like that for Dresden?<\/strong>
\nYes and no.\u00a0 Am I going to go all the way to the end of this to have Dresden be the one who pushes the button that says, “Destroy the universe? Yes : No.” It’s not going to be anywhere near that simple. Hopefully, if I do it right – which I don’t know, because I’ve never written a twenty book epic fantasy before – we’ll set it up to where if it had been anybody else it would have ended in disaster. But because it’s Dresden, we all get to keep getting along. If you’re doing your job as a writer, by the time you get to the end of your story, any other individual other than that character whose making things happen… if somebody else had been there, it all would have ended horribly wrong. Hopefully I’ll be able to do the same thing.
\nArched Doorway 2013 interview<\/a>
\nWill we ever see Faith from the Restoration of Faith short story in a mainstream Dresden Files book?<\/strong>
\nYes, we will, but not until the big ending. Faith was the first character and more or less the first client of Dresden\u2019s that I ever wrote in that first little short story. So she will show up again to kick off the big apocalyptic trilogy at the end.
\n2016 DF Reddit Podcast Q&A<\/a>
\nWill we see Chauncy again?<\/strong>
\nI don’t know, I haven’t thought about him in a good long time.\u00a0 He’s a demon that’s actually working\u00a0in hell<\/em>.\u00a0 Yah I can’t see how we can avoid seeing him in the second book of the BAT.\u00a0 That’s the one that’s entitled Hells Bells so.<\/p>\n

The Overall Arc<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

2010 Huston signing<\/a>
\nIs DF all planned out or outlined?\u00a0 \u00a0<\/strong>
\nA general outline\/events have been planned since 1995.\u00a0 Two extra books are planned as DF is two books behind.\u00a0 (Adding: we think this means a total of 22 + 3)
\n2011 Marscon Q&A<\/a>
\nHow\u2026how long will they have to wait to find out who will wield the Swords?<\/strong>
\nWe\u2019ll probably get the new wielder of Fidelacchius in Book 14 or 15. Um, Amoracchius is gonna, uh\u2026(Jim chuckles evilly), that\u2019s gonna be apocalypse time by the time we get [unintelligible].\u00a0 Amoracchius is not one of those Swords that really rampages around the world very often, and when if does, you\u2019ve heard about it, so…
\n2011 Atlanta Signing<\/a>
\nThe character progression of Tavi seems to parallel that of Harry, where he starts off low, gets a little more power, and then at the end, he gets a massive power boost between the 5th and 6th books.\u00a0 I was just wondering if something similar to that is going to happen to Harry, maybe before the Apocalyptic Trilogy?<\/strong>
\nI never want Dresden to be the big fish in the pond.\u00a0 I want Dresden to be the smart, fast, medium sized fish, who is constantly outclassed by all the actual big fish. And I don\u2019t see how we\u2019re going to get out of that. I\u2019m not planning on skyrocketing Dresden anytime soon, although the next book should be pretty interesting to see how that turns out. I think Dresden is in the process of finding out that the pond is whole lot bigger than he thought it was, and there\u2019s going to be a whole lot of new doors opening after this book.\u00a0 Or, as I told my shocked editor after she read the end of Changes, I think she said something along the lines of \u201cWhat were you thinking?\u201d\u00a0 And my response was [enthusiastic] \u201cThat now we can do the good stuff!\u201d
\n2012 Reddit AMA:<\/a>
\nstilleto929:<\/strong>\u00a0There have been 3 times that Nicodemus has told Dresden that time is running out. In Death Masks, after capturing Harry, Nicodemus says, \u201cYour history indicates that you are too dangerous to leave alive, I\u2019m afraid \u2013 and I am on a schedule.\u201d Then in Small Favor, in the aquarium, Nicodemus says, \u201c\u2026tempus fugit. For all of us.\u201d Then again in Small Favor, in the boat, Nicodemus says, \u201cDresden, I truly regret this necessity, but time is growing short. I must act\u2026\u201d WHY would an effectively-immortal person be so worried about time?!? The first instance can be explained by having a plane to catch, but the others seem\u2026unusual. Is Nicodemus\u2019s concern about time significant? I.e. showing to the reader that he believes something BIG will happen soon, and he has to be ready? Or is this just a conversational ploy to move the plot along? Would appreciate any info you could give us about this issue. Thanks in advance! – Stiletto (Celia)
\nJim:<\/strong>\u00a0The clock is ticking, and the clued people know it. \/Especially\/ to someone a couple of thousand years old, it really feels like we’ve already hit the two minute warning.<\/p>\n

Teasers about future “Files”<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n
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Quote from: jimbutcher on October 18, 2006, 04:48:31 AM<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Quote from: Mickey Finn<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Is it supposed to be a mystery at this point whether that was Mab or not on the roof of Arctis Tor? There’s been much discussion as to whether or not it was or was not, and if it’s supposed to be a mystery, great, but if not, did we just miss it? (This question is purely to determine whether we, the audience, are supposed to know, or if it’s still a mystery.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I said what I wanted to say about Arctis Tor.\u00a0 I’m just not done telling that entire story yet.\u00a0<\/span>\":)\"\u00a0 There will be more, never fear.<\/span><\/div>\n

Jim<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Amazon.com post March 8th 2011<\/strong><\/a>
\nI haven’t given \/anyone\/ a summary for book 14, not even my wife, much less my editor. I haven’t even outlined it yet, in anything but the broadest terms (a sentence, and an incomplete sentence at that, written in a notebook more than ten years ago).
\n2011 Fast Forward, Contemporary Science Fiction interview<\/a>
\nWhere do you want to go with the story of Harry?<\/strong>
\nWell the next story is called Cold Days.\u00a0 And I don’t want to leave any spoilers, but for those who’ve already read the book, they will have an idea of why it’s called Cold Days.\u00a0 And I really think of Changes, Ghost Story, and Cold Days as kind of a three piece set.\u00a0 Where Harry is pulled out of all of his usual haunts, all of his usual routine … I think the third book will be something that is very interesting.\u00a0 It will be a lot of fun.\u00a0 I’m anticipating it gleefully now which is very good because a few months ago I couldn’t stand this guy, I was sick of him.\u00a0 But we will get to Cold Days, and we will have a good time.
\n2011 NYC Signing Q&A<\/a>
\nWill we ever see the Gruffs again?<\/strong>
\nYes, probably in\u00a0Cold Days<\/em>.
\nHow soon are we going to see more direct contact with Cowl and the Black Court (sic, the context sounds like “Council”)?<\/strong>
\nNext book. Yeah, next book we\u2019ll see them again\u00a0 Actually, this will be really the first time I get to have them be more active than behind the scenes in terms of what role they\u2019re playing.
\n2011 Naperville Signing<\/a>
\nWhat is the first line of\u00a0Cold Days<\/em>?<\/strong>
\n\u201cMab has unique ideas about physical therapy.\u201d
\nNow that Harry\u2019s working for the Winter Court, is he going to have to deal with things like paying the rent and things like that?<\/strong>
\nThat\u2019s something that I\u2019m going to let see, because it will be more fun for you to see it than not see it. I\u2019ll tell you that Harry\u2019s going to look at his job, his first day on the new job, he\u2019s going to look at it much as anyone would their first day in prison, but we should have a good time with that.
\nAre we ever going to get to find out more about why Bob\u2019s so squirrelly about the Winter Court, and why he\u2019s nervous about Mab and so on?<\/strong>
\nYeah. The next book is pretty much going to be our Winter Court book, so assume that\u2019s true.
\nKansas City release party Q&A<\/a>
\nI read the short story from Marcone’s point of view, Even Hand, and I noticed that John Marcone is not his real name. Is that going to be significant?<\/strong>
\nSure is if somebody tries to cast a spell at him using the name John Marcone! That would be a big deal. We’ll have to see how that works out. Actually the character that’s really interesting is the Mirror Mirror universe Marcone, and we’ll get to him in a few books.
\nKiama, Australia Q&A, 2014<\/a>
\nActually, one of the books that’s going to be upcoming is — I’m just going to go for total originality and call it Mirror Mirror and stick Harry in a parallel universe where he made one choice differently when he was much younger and show the fallout from that choice in that universe as it’s going. That’s going to be extremely fun story. I don’t get to write it next. I think it’s the story after this next one — which is after Skin Game. There’s Skin Game and then the next one the White Council is going to come to town and there’s going to be a big brouhaha, and then I think I can do Mirror Mirror after that. And then maybe we’ll do professional wrestling stories. Because I love professional wrestling. I watch it for the writing. And you can sort of pick out, well, wait, what’s the inspiration for this show? And you can figure out what the book is the inspiration for this show, this particular segment of the wrestling. It’s like, ‘Ah ha! This is the Return of the King episode. Look! They’ve destroyed the evil guy and now the good king is back, and now he’s the champion of the league, and so and so has been fired, and so and so has been re-hired, and he stretched forth his hand and cured a girl of cancer.’ It’s wonderful. I love watching wrestling. It’s great fiction.
\n2014 Wyrdcon pannel<\/a>
\nThe book after “Peace Talks” is going to be titled “Mirror Mirror.”\u00a0 I’m writing an alternate universe story and I’m not even going to bother… Of course I’m stealing it from Star Trek.\u00a0 There’s going to be goatees and eye patches and everything.\u00a0 Just like in the regular universe only (sounds like sluttier), it\u2019s a Mirror Mirror story.\u00a0 \u00a0But that\u2019s going to be a fun because that\u2019s going to be\u2026 How will the world be different if Harry had made one choice differently.
\nAudience:\u00a0 Goateed like Harry\u2019s subconscious?
\nJim:\u00a0 It\u2019s going to be a different character because it\u2019s going to be Dresden as he would have been if he made one choice differently, and the fallout from that effect on his life.\u00a0 *unintelligible comment from audience*\u00a0 Yah this guy will have a hat.
\nIn this case it will be the big decision at the end of Grave Peril
\n2015 Stokie signing<\/a>
\nWhen are we going to see dragons again?<\/strong>
\nDude, I can\u2019t possibly do a dragon thing unless it\u2019s a whole book. So that would be book\u2026.20 or 21, something like that. Probably 21. Yeah, that seems about right.<\/p>\n

Things Jim expects to do in\/with future books<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

2010 Bitten by Books Q&A<\/a>:
\n#121\u201cAre we going to find out where the Hexenwolf belts came from in Fool Moon?\u201d<\/strong>
\nSeveral folks have already worked it out, actually.\u00a0\":)\"\u00a0The pieces are there if you want to put them together, though eventually I\u2019ll state it outright.
\n#167 \u201cDo you have any intention of including more material from Greek\/Roman mythology?\u201d<\/strong>
\nIndeed I do.\u00a0\":)\"
\nDo you expect to change your method of going forward a year in your storyline each book?\u00a0 Will you do any big jumps forward or maybe even backward?<\/strong>
\nYes I’m going to keep doing that because it works a little bit better for me to keep track of what year it is in the story.\u00a0 Am I going to make any big leaps forward or backwards?\u00a0 Well there is a whole law of magic about messing with time, and given it’s a law of magic, Dresden is gonna\u00a0have<\/em>\u00a0to break it eventually.
\n2008 Comic-Con Q&A<\/a>\u00a0@2:40
\nYou use a lot of mythologies in your books.\u00a0 Which is your favorite to work with, and how do you chose them?<\/strong>
\nI wish I could give you a cool sophisticated answer for that…\u00a0 (he basically says what he uses is based on the story, and trying to be original).\u00a0 Things that I want to use that I haven’t gotten to are:\u00a0 A little bit more Hindu stuff.\u00a0 Hindu Mythos is full and rich and confusing, they have been doing the supernatural soap opera thing way before any of us got started with it on TV.\u00a0 I haven’t gotten to do as much Norse stuff (note this was before changes).\u00a0 I haven’t gotten to do as much Greek stuff as I wanted to do which is why I added the hekitean (msp?) hags in Welcome to the Jungle.\u00a0 Warhammer fans will recognize some of the names I dropped in\u00a0Dead Beat<\/em>
\n2011 NYC Signing Q&A<\/a>
\nIn the previous books, Odin showed up. Are any of the other pantheons going to make an appearance?<\/strong>
\nYes, they are. That kind of question is the reason why I say, \u201cNow that I\u2019ve\u00a0 killed Dresden, now we can do the FUN STUFF.\u201d
\nKansas City release party Q&A<\/a>
\nWill we ever see Dresden forced into a situation where he may have to jump through time to do something?<\/strong>
\nThat would require him breaking one of the laws of magic, and it’s not as though I have seven books outlined, one for each law, or anything. We may, probably, possibly some see such as thing at some point.
\n2011 Atlanta Signing<\/a>
\nWhat other cultures and folklore can we expect to see in the Dresden series?<\/strong>
\nI’ll probably start adding in some Asian stuff; probably some more Indian or Southwest Asian stuff.\u00a0 I\u2019m gonna get through some more Norse stuff because I just like the Norse.\u00a0 Other than that, we’ll have to see. We\u2019ve still got a lot to do; we\u2019ve still got an epic dragon battle. I\u2019ve got a bunch of stuff planned, I\u2019ve got a bunch of ways where \u2018I\u2019ve got to end the book exactly like this!\u2019 where I\u2019ve got a horrible ending at the end of the book for Dresden, starting with Changes
\nAlso, everyone else is buying into the zombie craze, are you buying into it?<\/strong>
\nThe zombie craze? Why would I do anything with zombies? Zombies are stupid, why would I ever use those. Again. We can\u2019t get away from zombies completely because some of the necromancers survived
\nWhen will we see more of Injun Joe?<\/strong>
\nI don\u2019t have everything plotted out.\u00a0 I know about the big events, but not individual character stuff.\u00a0 Injun Joe will have to be in there by [pause to think] at least by book 15.\u00a0 Probably 15 and 16, he’ll both be in. [pause] Yeah, that seems about right.\u00a0 I have to think these things through, I haven\u2019t thought of the answer to absolutely every question.
\nAre we ever going to see Sue again?<\/strong>
\nYes. But it might be a while.
\n2011 Boston Signing<\/a>
\nWith all these plots that are going on, with Mab and Lea obviously playing games against one another, with archangels sticking there nose in, with vague supernatural entities that live on islands, how are all these conflicting interests, where Dresden\u2019s getting pulled in different directions by all of them, how are they going to play out in the future?<\/strong>
\nI know that a lot of the folks that are generally perceived as bad guys aren\u2019t necessarily, there are several who are currently perceived as good guys who aren\u2019t necessarily, and we\u2019ll continue to have those fall out over the next several books
\n2011 Boston Signing<\/a>
\nGiven that I\u2019ve planned out so many things, and there are so many stories and actions that have consequences that have to be played out in the course of the series, are there any seemingly insignificant actions that are going to be played out later on?
\nYes, there are. A bunch of them. But we\u2019ll see. I\u2019m still working out how to get them all fit in, but the next six books are going to be very, very busy. Six or seven or eight or however many it takes.
\nNow that Harry\u2019s died, that whole \u201cDie alone\u201d death curse, is that over?\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>
\nWas he not dead enough? Yeah, he got out from underneath that one. Sort of. It remains to be seen if he\u2019s going to get out from underneath the rest of it. Which I\u2019m having a very good time plotting out.
\nKiama, Australia Q&A, 2014<\/a>
\nOn mythologies he’s yet to use but will:<\/strong>
\nwe’ve still got to do the thing with the dragon and that’s going to be awesome.
\nIs there anybody in the Dresden Files that you’re not going to destroy physically or emotionally, because you seem to be on a bit of a trend here?<\/strong>
\nI make no promises, man. I think — okay, you know, the scenes like where people get shot abruptly out of nowhere or abruptly stabbed with giant pieces of metal through the chest out of nowhere? Okay, the problem with those scenes is not that they kill favorite characters that we love but that they didn’t make those people suffer anywhere near enough to get the job done as a writer. I look at those and go, ‘You know what? That could have been a lot worse. And this is how we could have made it even worse, and that would have made it that much more painful and terrible a death for these characters.’ Yeah, a little bit of sadism. You’ve got to have a little bit of sadism in you to be a good writer. So, I make no promises about anybody in the Dresden Files as far as who is going to make it out alive or with their sanity in one piece.
\nWhat happened to coma girl in the hospital?<\/strong>
\nWe will find out. Not in Skin Game, but we will find out.
\n2015 Grid Daily interview<\/a>
\nAt the beginning of the series, there\u2019s only a very vague, amorphous big bad.\u00a0 As the series has progressed it\u2019s gotten more complicated and more convoluted.\u00a0 How much of this were you planning all the way back when you started writing?<\/strong>
\nAll of it.\u00a0 I kind of had a good idea of what the big bad was, and what it looked like, and where it all lined up.\u00a0 We\u2019ve still go the really excited things in front of us.\u00a0 We\u2019ve got giants and apocalii (which I judge to be the plural of apocalypse).\u00a0 Kaiju and gods.\u00a0 Plus we\u2019re going to have a dragon vs. wizard fight.\u00a0 Because\u2026you knew that was coming.
\n2015 Slippery Words interview<\/a>
\nIn the very beginning of Skin Game we hear from a somewhat British sounding rather annoyed prisoner on Demonreach.\u00a0 Is he ever coming back?<\/strong>
\nYes, I’m fundamentally a lazy writer.\u00a0 I don’t ever want to put something in the book that I’m not going to use for something at some point.\u00a0 Which is not to say that every tiny detail will be used but, if I take a moment to introduce a character, and have them do things, it’s for a reason.
\nYah, I couldn’t see why you would “waste” (you know what I mean) time on…\u00a0<\/strong>
\nNot in the opening chapter of the novel no
\nOk he’s gotta come back<\/strong>
\nAs a seed for the future yah
\n2016 DF Reddit Podcast Q&A<\/a>
\nAre we going to see Agent Tilly again?<\/strong>
\nYes definately.\u00a0 Tilly I had to get into the story a little bit earlier on, for when things are happening on more than the Chicago level later in the story.
\n2016 DF Reddit Podcast Q&A<\/a>
\nWill we see Tera West again?<\/strong>
\nYah, probably not until the BAT though<\/p>\n

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